One of my readers thought I should look into Nattokinasse and potentially try it for myself. It is the main ingredient in Fibrovan, which now also make a similar product called Endovan. It sounded quite good to me, when I first started researching it. It claims to dissolve Scar Tissue or a better explanation, the fibrin in the blood clots we have, that form the Endometriosis. The idea is, to thin the blood and thereby dissolve the Endometriosis. Here is the website for the it : www.fibrovan.com
Here are 5 reasons I am hesitant on Fibrovan or Endovan supplements in particular
1. The Marketing is deceptive
The website is designed to sell us on the product. It has a logo of the FDA, which says “We follow the guidelines of the FDA”. This is misleading. It makes us think it is FDA approved and only if you read the fine print at the bottom of the page, can you tell it isn’t FDA approved. This is dishonest to me…..
2. The Endovan product contains Vitex or Chasteberry.
Now, I know my research is not conclusive but I don’t think this is a good supplement for girls with Endometriosis. It contains Oestrogenic properties, which potentially could aggravate Endometriosis.
3. It says there are NO Side-effects
Sorry, that can’t be – especially when the supplement deals with thinning the blood. Hey, the whole body is made up of blood and thinning ALL of it, just for endo is potentially risky, in my opinion.
When I researched just Nattokinase as a supplement, I discovered that there are infact side-effects:
http://www.raysahelian.com/nattokinase.html
4. It contains Green Tea Leaf Extract.
I never thought this could be a bad supplement as Green Tea is actually really good for us. However, upon further research, I discovered this article:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/485912-liver-damage-and-green-tea/
Essentially (if you don’t feel like reading all of that), it actually can cause more damage to the liver – in a Green Leaf Tea Extract form. Interesting!
We know the liver is a massive organ in our healing of Endometriosis as it flushes out excess hormones and fats! We certainly don’t want to place any further strain on the liver 
5. It is created using the Soy Bean
I know, the poor soy bean does get quite abit of slack! This is just a fear thing I have with Soy now, but perhaps that is where my hesitancy is coming from. How do we know they are not using genetically modified soy beans? Also, soy is just not good for endometriosis…. so I am just a little hesitant there too.
I did read heaps of stories about it though and there seem to be girls who say they had a dramatic improvement with it. It seems to be particularly beneficial for girls with fibroids. Maybe, I should look into other brands containing Nattokinase….. your thoughs?
It did get me thinking though…. about the whole blood thinning idea and I thought I would find another option.
I researched what natural vitamins are actually responsible for thinning the blood and preventing blood clotting. One of the key ones is Vitamin K.
Vitamin K is also a key ingredient in Nattokinasse – go figure
Here is what is interesting about Vitamin K…
- It is destroyed by Asprin and Antibiotics (which most of us are prone to taking too much of, due to pain and infections occurring easily)
- It is hard to absorb if you suffer from poor fat absorption in the body or consume heaps of polyunsaturated oils (refined oils)
- If we are lacking in Vitamin K, we bruise easily
- The natural foods that contain them are all our greens and chlorophyll rich foods – Spinach, Brussel Sprouts, Broccoli and Wheatgrass. It is hard to get enough Vitamin K, just through diet though, which means many of us are probably deficient in it. – hence the potential problems of blood clotting, excess bleeding etc.
- It is important for the calcification of bones
Author of Cure Endometriosis & Eating with Mel.
Endometriosis, Ovarian cysts, Breast cysts, and other female issues can be traced to chemicals and herbs that act like estrogen (xenoestrogens). This is the newest research pointed out by Colborn, PhD in “Our Stolen Future”. You must avoid these if you hope to get rid of the endometriosis, ovarian cysts and breast cysts because they are causing the problem. You may take natural progesterone if and only if your xenoestrogen load is low. If the xenoestrogen load is high, then there may temporarily be an opposite effect.
Read about it more at http://www.byeendo.com, http://www.endo101.com and http://www.cyst101.com.
I see there are people who have not had the good results I have had with the Endovan. All I can say is that everyone is different, even everyone’s endo is different. The Endovan is working for me, amazingly. I promise to stay up-to-date with you as I continue on it, and I will let you know the status. I am hopeful
Like I said, I was MISERABLE and scheduled my hysterectomy. I am at a place where I don’t even think about it anymore. We will see how the next few months go! Thanks for your encouragement!
Thanks Kellie! That is awesome. It is good to hear such positive news
Hello again to you all !
As I said in my previews message , I am on continuous usage of Endovan since almost 3 years. It is working, but not always ! Since I stopet to take Ankun Zanyu Wang ( the chinese medicines which helped me more than perfect ), imediately 2 months later, all the most worse siyymptoms was back to me !!! I was ready to die, I got a big cyst and it was broken, big infection in all my peritoneum, etc etc.. I realised that Endovan is not working much, but that chinese medicines made me time of 1 year to forget completely of endo . I never got any episode of rupture cyrst or something like this as always got before use it. I was need stop them as they had no more in stock . Now they made a new stock and I can find them , I ordered again today and I am so happy to start again to live !… Ankun Zanyu Wan is about 10 times stronger than Endovan , contain lots of herbs and nutrients that a woman with endo need . I would recomand it to anyone who suffer of endo. It is worth ! you need take it from day 5 or day 3 of your menstrual cycle till day 25 or 28. If your cycle is longer than 28, you can take them in same schedule, but longer , till day 30-35 , depend how long is your cycle.
The effect is visible instantly , for me was happened this. I was in pains, once I eat one of that pill , I felt my body warm and pain disappeared. Chinese medicines cure blood stasis , regulate menstruation, no pains, purify the blood, recover the liver and kidneys.
I am from Europe and living in China since 6 years , at begining I didn’t believed in Chinese medicines also, but once tried them, I rarely apply for western medicines now . And take care, herbs medicines from West are never so pure as the Chinese medicines. West factory add chemicals even they say there are only naturals ingredience , but is not true ! The simple exemple is the capsule of a pill, the pills in plastic capsule are not healthy for the liver . That plactis contain a color ( depend of the color they make color the capsule) , contact plastic , even is comestible, is not natural ! I still take endovan but minimal dose , 2 pills per day.
For those who want to try, see this link : http://helpofchinesemedicine.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14&products_id=82
Wish you all , good health !
Hi Aylin,
I would get off the endovan completely and try Vitalzym or Exclzyme instead. It contains the Serrapeptase which is the main ingredient you want!
Thanks for your message. I don’t think the Endovan is good for you. The chinese medicine might have helped curb the effects. Endovan contains too many phytoestrgons which I believe have caused you to developed a cyst. The chinese medicine works on different principles and not on hormones. This chinese remedy sounds perfect! I will reasearch it some more and share it with the girls in a seperate blog. Totally agree with the plastics being bad for our liver
All the best and let us know how you go
Melissa
Thank you for ALL of the information you have made available. I was beginning to feel hopeless.
It is my pleasure! There is so much available to us! I just gotta get the message out there
I realize this was posted awhile back & my comment comes late. But, I could not pass this up. I was, very hesitantly, scheduled to undergo a hysterectomy this year 2012. I have been blessed with four amazing, healthy kids, and I am grateful. Also, my endo has gotten worse over the past 2 yrs, even while being on the birth control pill. So, the only choice I seemed to have left was a hysterectomy. I always prefer to do things “naturally”, and I am a big believer in nutritional & overall wellness. I eat right & take supplements, but nothing helped my endo, the pain, the bleeding, you know…….
As a last ditch effort, I scoured the internet for anything I could find for natural remedies for endo. I came across Endovan. I read everything I could about it” the good, the “bad”, and testimonials. I read up on the ingredients in Endovan. I vowed I would take it for one month, the beginning of a cycle to the end. It was more expensive than I was comfortable with, but less of a risk than undergoing major surgery removing my female organs, the recuperation, the cost, the side effects, you name it. All I had to lose was $50. To me, it was worth it.
I have never regretted that decision.
I have been taking it for 4 months now & have improved TREMENDOUSLY. I want to tell everyone I know that has suffered from endo about this product. Because I have been there. I realize everyone is different & responds differently to different things. But before you do anything drastic, I encourage you to give it a chance.
Personally, as someone who experiences side effects from things as harmless as TUMS, I have not had any side effects that I know of. And I get my blood drawn regularly for an unrelated health issue so, nothing new to report there. I am so grateful!
Hi Kellie,
That is wonderful to hear and thanks for the positive feed back on Endovan. I would love to follow your progress with it and see how it goes from here. Some products offer fantastic instant relief and don’t always give us the same effects over a longer period. Have you made any other changes to your lifestyle, diet etc?
I am super excited to hear about this working for you and I will have to explore it a little further! Thank you so much for sharing!
Here is an answer from Gena , up. I am wonder if you took all this 3 producs in the same time and which one gave you the good effect ? Or cannot obtain the good effect if not take all 3 ? I am on Endovan since 2 years and 3 months already , for me worked good, but not perfect anyway. In last year I think I had endo on spine on vertebral column also , I try see every month when appear the pain on vertebal column and it is associate with ovulation or the end of menstruation. I had MRI , it said 3 disk vertebral hernias ! But there they can’t see why .. I was felt so strong pain when happen this in my back ( L4-L5-L6) , 3 months cannot walking…. I feel all my back muscles like something keep it so strong , the abdomen all including stomac, same, I feel something keep my skin … I am sure is endo and maybe got worse with Endovan ? Is possible Endovan just help for pain and inflamation but Endo to grow up more ? I am afraid and I don’t know what else to try. I also have my opinion, I am in China and I am on some Chinese herbs which help to pains , reduce PMS to 0 and regulate your period, it is called Ankun Zanyu Wan . You can find in google also and can order online. I think work good but not sure how interacting with Endovan…. Chinese medicine have many for help pains and endo, but I read somewhere that most of the Chinese herbs are oestrogenic influenced . I don’t know if this is true or not, but it is worth to try anything and see what is ok for you. For nothing for me is working something and for you not …. We are all different. Good health wish you all !
Soy Bad, Soy Good: The Pluses of Fermented Soy (mercola article)
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/08/04/fermented-soy.aspx
Other benefits of natto (study)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899900700005542
BTW, I love your website!
Hi,
I’m glad that you are researching Fibrovan. I’ve been taking it for 2+ years (6 caps. per day) and I consider it my miracle cure for endo. I also know that it doesn’t work for everybody.
Regarding point # 3 in your article. From what I read about nattokinasse there are not many side effects when taking this enzyme alone. On the other hand, there can be serious interactions if you are taking it with blood thinners drugs or drugs for your blood pressure.
Point # 5. I avoid unfermented Soy products like the plague. Now, there is a huge difference between nonfermented soy products (eg soy milk) and fermented soy products (natto, temphe). Fermented soy products contains tons of vitamin K2 and Nonfermented soy products contain phytic acid, which contains anti-nutritive properties.
Thanks for sharing that
Didn’t know that about soy!
Has the Fibrovan healed your issue? I just started taking it about 2 weeks ago and I must say it has helped with the pain and pressure…
Hi Rhonda,
Perhaps you didn’t get a chance to read the whole article but I don’t really recommend taking Fibrovan. You may be better off trying Vitalzym or the sister product Exclzyme.
All the best.
Hi, There is a product that is safe and works very well to eat away at the scar tissue and also help with inflamation, there is alot of information out there on this product and it has worked very well for me and the pain the endo causes, it is called Wobenzym N also Serrapeptase by Source Naturals works the same, kinda like a pac man eating away all that scar tissue from the endo. I have been in pain for years and these products along with Dim-Plus by Natures Way are the best I have tried and actually gotten relief, Oh also I started taking Candex by Pure Essence Labs it is for the yeast associated with the endo but it is the best ever!!! No die off, it is a formula like no other PLEASE everyone with endo look into taking this product!!! Ok that is what I have been doing for about 2 months now and it is the only protocal that has ever worked on giving me some pain free moments, I am 45 and will soon hit menapause and I never thought I would say this but cant wait, at least the endo monstor wont continue. Good Luck and have a wonderful day!!
Hello,
I tried Fibrovan and it did not do anything for me…
I was on it for a long time and it was so sad that it did not do anything for me. I have pretty severe endo and fast growing and what seems to help are herbs from all over the world and diet(gluten free). I hope this helps and I hope to hear from all of you girls!! 
Only hope is Faith in God!!